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Moh Kempo Martial Arts Discussions on Moh Kempo, Pai Hu Shih & Martial Arts in General
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MrE2Me2 One ring to rule them

Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 1099
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: Pai Hu Shi |
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Grasshopper’s history of Olaf Simon has this on it.
“Olaf Simon also started to teach his Pai Hu Shih style in the mid '80's. Pai Hu Shih is a style which he developed but held back from his students & teachers for years. Literally translated Pai Hu Shih means “White Tiger Style”.
"Is the “Pai Hu Shi” a traditional Chinese martial art – No! Those who have made that claim don’t know what they are talking about... That is why many of us in Alberta for years have also referred to the Pai Hu Shi as “Simon’s Style”. Many other founders of martial arts systems have done the exact same thing, so why is this such a surprise? Morihei Ueshiba founded Aikido, Ed Parker founded American Kenpo, Mas Oyama founded Kyokushin Karate, Bruce Lee founded Jeet Kune Do, the Gracie’s formatted Gracie Jujitsu…each one of these masters took the knowledge that they were taught and produced their own unique style, that’s why they are masters. If this didn’t occur we would all still be training only 20 motions from a thousand years ago, so what’s the problem here? Yes, Grandmaster Simon was trained by a Shaolin Priest, however it would be difficult for any style to claim that they train “authentic” Shaolin Kung Fu in the same form as it was in the Shaolin Temple since the original monks have all pasted away and the Shaolin Temple is now under the direction of the Communist Chinese Army...
-Excerpt of Letter from the Temple Kung Fu Studios in Alberta dated June 16, 2006
“I have patented myself and where I have a manuscript ready to be published. This is a very effective way, very destructive form of Kung Fu which I throughout my studio don't introduce... (Later) I introduced them to the true concept of Kung Fu which isn’t anywhere else which I was taught by my master, and he told me in time I will find out I will learn not to step forward but to stand still. And I understood that finally it came to me that is the only way it must have been designed because the monks never walked after anyone. And if danger comes to one it is easy to depose of it than going after danger. There are many scientific facts underlying to this, so I have actually proven and established a scientific concept to this method of dealing which no other style ever has attempted to have a scientific proven method in this style which cannot by means of signs discount it.”
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I have an interesting story from Edmonton during mid 1977.
I ran into a former student of SKS.
He claimed he was a former green belt.
He said that he was there when Simon introduced the concept of Kung Fu.
He said that Olaf did this because his students began to complain.
They said he was holding back teaching them, “The Good Stuff”.
All I can say is that he definitively kicked my donkey.
He used motions that I had not seen, up till that point.
Is it possible that maybe done this before,
He tried to do it again with PHS?
Regards, MrE2Me2
Without prejudice
E&OE _________________ We’re naught but humble pirates.
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Current Student rogue warrior

Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 203 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Very interesting post.
I also was always told that GMS was the founder (read creator) of PHS. I think there were some people that did not understand this and some of them intern misinformed others. I never actually heard people say they were told it was anything else until I read some people saying so on the internet. |
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shannon harrington yellow belt

Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 13 Location: winnipeg
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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i wish i could see a pai hu shih form, i've been told by phs members that moh is the base for the phs and so in some ways i feel that the moh kempo i train is somewhat incomplete with out it. to bad at the time i trained it was so guarded in manitoba i know in BC almost everyone was in it, maybe people in BC are more honorable than manitoba or maybe their economy was better and the owners were more greedy. maybe i'm just jeleaous and bitter becuase i can hardly spell. ha ha _________________ i only know that i am complete and sufficient just as i am, siddartha |
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