Moh Kempo Martial Arts

[grasshopper]

This is from a different thread on the forum but I found it so informative that I created a new thread just for it...

[MrE2Me2]

Modern History of Shaolin,

To all,

I am sure that the modern history of Shaolin is every bit as murky as the ancient history.

There are those Kung fu Masters who fled to Hong Kong.

As well, I once saw a documentary on Kung Fu in mainland China.
It showed, among other things, an old man teaching a form to a younger man.

Bruce posted, “I think this sounds reasonable, many monks and teachers would have went into hiding in the Cultural revolution, and style like Hung Gar, Cho Li Fut etc would have remained as they do today and they can also trace their history back to Shaolin.”

This echoes what Charles Wang says, “In summation, Shaolin style kung fu has not been wiped out and the traditional knowledge is still available.”

There are also those like this guy, Master Pan Qing Fu.
“Unfortunately, he does not usually allow people to photograph him performing martial arts, since he considers his movements to be secrets of the trade”.
http://www.charliet.net/masterpan/masterpan.htm

Regards, MrE2Me2
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[Yen Hui]

[MrE2Me2]

Hello Yen Hui,

The link worked for me.

But try here on this google search of links about this Master.

http://www.google.ca/search?q=Master+Pan+Qing+
Fu.+&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:
en-US:official

Regards, MrE2Me2
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[Yen Hui]

Thanks, Mr2E2Me2, but it's still a no go. I went to the Google webpage,
as you suggested, and tried to link from there but could'nt get to it. If
the problem persists, I'll contact my server about it. I saw Master Pan's
big screen debut back in the earlier 90's, I think it was. I forgot he
resided here in Ontario, and was training peole in the Shaolin Arts.
I'll keep trying, as it may be worth my while to try and make his
acquaintance. Who knows? Many kind regards! P.S. Keep those
helpful KISAE vid clips rolling off the press. I'm sure enjoying them!
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[MrE2Me2]

Hello Yen Hui,

Thank you for your kind words.

I shall endevor to keep filming.

Sorry about the links.

I don't know what to tell you.

Regards, MrE2Me2
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[grasshopper]

[Yen Hui]

3rd day runnin' and it's still a no go for me. Weird! I'll contact my server
later today about it, and if they don't get me connected, then they're out'a
there!
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The fixed rules reveal themselves. But if you are not the right man,
the meaning will not manifest itself to you. Yen Hui is one who will
surely attain it!! The perfected nature of man is the Gateway of Tao
and Justice!

[rapier6360]

Hi
Just passing through and saw your forum. Don't know if anyone will read this old thread but WTH

What this "Shaolin" says makes a lot of sense but no offense meant, I doubt he is a Shaolin. They have only recently been coming to north america and there are many who make false claims to being Chan Buddhist monks. The fact that he did not have the name of the previous abbot right is a clue. Ther are people in Pennsylvania, New York, and Los Angeles among others making claims. I can think of one in New York that was a monk (now married and a meat eater and party animal) and I believe there are a couple in Houston that have reasonable claims.The SF Bay Area seem to be the hot bed for the recent Monk migration from Shan Song temple. See www.shaolintempleusa.com

[North]

i iamgine the styles trained at the temple have taken severe impact in the past due to the temple being burned or bandit raids. What defines Shaolin kung fu? Is it the most combat effective system ever trained within it's walls? That seems a bit to ask and would likely require a time machine.
The history of Shaolin is one of an evolving artform. To say someone living there is not a real monk is a tad odd to me. He is playing his part in history.

Even a grandmaster is in a state of learning. Nobody ever stops the learning process in Kung Fu. It isn't about trying to know everything in a given system. It is about making sure your progress never stops. Your training never stops. So long as you are still growing, you are on the path.
Please also bear in mind that the current abbot of the Shaolin temple does not even know Kung Fu. He is a secular monk only. The ancient ways of allowing monks to choose between a devotion to prayer and meditation were returned.
I think the temple has a long evolution ahead of it and it did take a hit from current events. But that is just part of it's story. A very long story with more to come.
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[47MartialMan]

I tend to think there are no longer any "Authentic Shaolin Monks"

[North]

Well, if we take it to a generalization, if a true monk is a little chinese guy in orange robes that could whoop our asses with a stick, then I do believe there are still some real monks training there.
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[47MartialMan]

Then, that isnt a true monk of Shaolin.