Wudang - Check this out

Wudang - Check this out
Ok , I have been wanting to travel to china for some time now to train for say a month or two every other year. A dream of mine so to say, of course I want to find a great place /places to train while there. I had this site bookmarked as one to look into further http://www.wudanggongfu.com/ And today I revisited the site and they had updated it and added some video's. For you students who had been at TKF for some time, take a look at this and see if anything looks familiar. Not exactly but has many motions from hung, and some other forms which I will not name some of the other forms have some similarities also. Not saying this proves or disproves anything, but it definitly resembles some moh/PHS taught by GMS. What do you think? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6319248329717817213&q=wudang Pai Mei

Wow , it sure has an uncanny resemblance to Hung 1 and 2, never learned 3 so I can't comment on that! Surprising that wudang does a form similar to Simon's, especially when Simon wrote in Law of the Fist that the Wudang school had training that was of little combative value!! :?

Pai Mei I did not check that site out. I just looked at the video clip. I am curious if that is a form of Tam Tui?? Tam Tui forms are apparently always done in a back and forth linear fasion. Most defenses and attacks are done along the same line. I know that one of the five "families" or styles of tam Tui was called "Hung". I cannot remember for the life of me what the other four styles were called. I am convinced that the Hung forms of Moo kempo are either a form of Tam Tui or a direct offshoot of that system of martial art. if you know anything about Tam Tui I would be interested in hearing because, I know very little about it other than what I have read and heard. I have never trained Tam Tui personally, exept for the Hung Forms , if they are indeed a form of Tam Tui. sifu shawn

I really don't know anything about Tam Tui. I just saw this form, and it reminded me of the hung forms. A couple of the movements are identical, some with different footwork or at different angles. But the resemblence is there. Looks a little more detailed than hung though. Interesting theory though. Pai Mei

Pai Mei, I agree with you. The form is considerably more detailed then hung. And the Tam Tui idea is just a theory, as with much of the moo system, a lot of what is talked about is speculation I think. sifu shawn

Pai Mei, I agree with you. The form is considerably more detailed then hung. And the Tam Tui idea is just a theory, as with much of the moo system, a lot of what is talked about is speculation I think. sifu shawn This is my first post to the forum! I trained in another style of Kung Fu prior to becoming a student with TKF in the late 80's - mid 90's. One of the forms I learned before was Tan Tui (or Tam Toi depending on how you wish to spell it). The words literally mean 'Spring-like Legs'. Although it's typically divided into 12 segments for instruction, it's a continuous form attributed to Pei Ch'uan (Northern Fist) and is frequently found in schools based on Northern Shaolin. The reason it's broken into 12 patterns is because each pattern is designed to teach a principle. The 12 principles are: * Action * Calming * Jumping * Falling * Stances * Rising * Twisting * Rotating (as in full body) * Quick * Slow * Lightness * Heaviness I recall learning the forms at TKF and being struck by the similarity too. The Hung forms seem to contain the essence of Tan Tui in a compact form. The 'feeling' was so similar that it made it difficult to learn the forms. It was if I was relearning Tan Tui. Granted this is very subjective. To me there seems to be a strong relationship. -Baguazhang

Thanks for the insights Baguazhang and welcome to the forum.

Baguazhang,, Thanks for the insight. I have been hoping to find someone to shed even a bit of confirmation on my thoughts... There is (IMHO) a definite similarity between the hungs and Tam Tui. The 12 patterns info is very cool indeed. sifu shawn

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