"ACADEMY OF KEMPO MARTIAL ARTS" & "KUNG F
Found this post on the other website and had to copy it here anon other studios are out there September 1 2006, 11:19 AM does master terlecki have a school? Yes, here is a link to his website: http://www.kungfubc.com/ Academy Of Kempo Martial Arts Address : 760 Pacific Road, Oakville, ON L6L 6M5 Telephone : 905-825-2132 Category : Health, Fitness & Exercise Services Directory : Oakville If you want to talk endlessly about GMS and the scams he has led, call the number in the previous posts from DJ Geoff. If you want to train and never see the 'leader' then go to their studios. If you want to train hard and with an incredible teacher that inspired so many teachers and students before Simon turned on him, see Kung Fu For Life Inc 403-243-5433 345 39 Avenue SE, Calgary, AB T2G 1X5 GM Piercy leads many of the advanced classes himself, so you are always learning something. (PS this is my recommendation and I do not work for them) Feel free to add other excellent studios to this list

To someone who knows, Who is GM Piercy? How does he rate a GM in front of his name? Regards, MrE2Me2

"Who is GM Piercy? How does he rate a GM in front of his name?" Master Dereck Piercey was one of the most (if not the most) skilled individuals ever produced by Simon. He owned and operated TKF schools from 92/93 until his departure in 2001 or so. I think he was an 8th degree black belt when he left. Although he was almost legendary for his skill and has trained many highly skilled instructors, he was also responsible for driving most of them away due to the very low pay and autocratic control of the studios. Last year he joined Master Weber's break-away Kung Fu For Life Calgary studio, where he teaches occasionally. It sounds like his students are now calling him a Grandmaster.

Who is GM Piercy? The person who posted that message in the other forum (Anon), followed up by saying that was a mistake in his post and Master Piercey is not "GM Piercey" I don't know anything about how the students refer to him

No, two totally seperate schools, i just cut and paste Anon's post. R. Terlecki (kungfubc), has nothing to do with the "Academy of Kempo Martial Arts" which is R. Jones and T. Sparrow... ... except for the fact they are all past teachers under GMS.

he was also responsible for driving most of them away due to the very low pay and autocratic control of the studios wow, now that is a quite the unsubstantiated lie if I ever heard one. Vortex are you DJ Geoff? So you know the whole story of Simon and Piercy (9th degree BTW)? And the contracts and franchise agreements that were forced on Piercy, by Simon? And who retained control of business practices (Simon of course)? Why is it that the Simon supporters continue to disregard the evidence by former instructors that head office (Simons) had control of so much of the day-to-day operations? Grasshopper, I wrote that about the other studios and I did not retract the GM in front of GM Piercy, that was someone else's posting. Peircy has as much right as Simon to call himself GM. In all the debates I have never heard what qualifies someone to be a GM?? Who qualified the first GM? As far as I am concerned it has more to do with skill than someone granting it to you. GM Piercy definitely has the skill!! It was Piercy's energy skill and his ability to impart this to his Chief's and his students that brought the incredible rise in students to the schools, and the rise of the schools across Canada. Under him and the other chiefs, the halls were packed. Under Simon's rule afterwards we saw the collapse of the studios. A letter from Master Sparrow had been posted on the other TKF site, and I can attest to the authenticity that that letter was what Sparrow sent out and that it was true. In that letter it was clearly stated how June Simon was ruling the business practises which drove Toronto/Winnipeg studios into the ground. I am sure we will see the same rise in Piercy's studio again.

Thanks grasshopper. I'm still a little confused, though, about the affiliation(s). Are Masters Jones and Sparrow still with GMS, or independent? If the latter, is there any affiliation between them and GM Piercy? Or any chance of them joining ranks with GMP in the near future? Lastly, does either of Master Jones or Master Sparrow reside in Ontario?

Jones and Sparrow are no longer connected to anyone. Jones seems to have pulled away early enough before the Simon's could push him under. He formed the 'Academy of Kempo....' Sparrow is out but still helps out the students and teachers that were left behind. They are no longer affiliated with Piercy - as for a future affiliation? you will have to ask them. The trio of Sparrow, Jones, Weber have appologised to Piercy for allowing the Simon's to use them to push Piercy out.

Hi rainmann, good to see some new blood in the forums. You and I are almost in total agreement about Master Piercey and the other fellows. Sorry that I mistook that info being from you (are you Anon from the other forum?) , I thought the correction about the GM Piercey title came from the same person. Doesn't matter anyways really... I have one concern though... "Peircy has as much right as Simon to call himself GM." This does not make a compelling arguement and I would suggest avoiding using Simon as a "measuring stick" for anything unless you want to incur the wrath of the Simon detractors...

what is a GM
This does not make a compelling arguement and I would suggest avoiding using Simon as a "measuring stick" for anything unless you want to incur the wrath of the Simon detractors... I am not really worried about the Simon detractors. That was directed more at the Simon supporters (read DJ Geoff and the others who are trying to deflect blame to past instructors/owners). Being a past instructor, all that trash about theft etc is being said about you as well. As far as a compelling argument, my question remains: what is a Grand Master? Simon admitted in court that he took the title to himself. Given the situation, I think it is obvious that Piercy has taken this title on, on his own as well. Do I think Piercy deserves it? Yes. Do I think Simon deserves it? Whatever his business practises, he has been responsible for training a lot of people to a high level. Therefore I think it is a title that he had the right to take. I think he has no loyalty and no business ethics and that he is an 'evil' person. Just witness the lack of loyalty to past owners/instructors or the Toronto students. A number of students signed an oath to 'reswear' loyalty to Simon after the Toronto studios collapsed. I think that was stupid, but what did they get back. With all of Simon's millions, was there any help to keep the studios open for a few months? Was there any refunds to new students, PHS etc? The Simon supporters will deflect criticism to SParrow, Weber, Piercy etc...How long before this story gets old and the only common thread is Simon. Piercy: I have trained many different sports, hobbies, trades etc and I have rarely seen anyone with the ability to involve people the way Piercy did. Both with his energy and his skill. Someone on this forum had some weird monkey story that they were trying to use to prove that it was past owners and not Simon that caused the problem. They believe that these past owners perpetuated some learned bad behaviour. However, if you follow that analogy, it was the original owner that created the problem which was then perpuated by people that came on board afterwards. Who was the original owner?? Simon. As I asked, what governs someone calling themselves a GM? How did the first GM justify calling himself a GM? Who says he was justified? This is very separate from the other titles (his holiness etc) those are just overboard. Most of the people that want to discredit Simon's skill also want to discredit the entire system and training and I don't believe them. I know what the training did for me and for others. In the end, applying what you learned is individual, some got it, some didn't. Afterall, I think that martial arts is so individualistic and there are so many ways to apply even the simplest moves that if you were a student that trained for several years and then walked away with no knowledge or skill, then that says more about you than about your teachers. Yes I did post some of the 'anon' on the other site. Good to see that DJ Geoff (still sounds like a rap group) are not spamming this site with useless drivel, or maybe I missed the spam. Thoughts are a bit all over the place, but I didn't want to expand a lot on any one point. Always more difficult by internet than by conversation.

I think it is obvious that Piercy has taken this title on, Does HE call himself GrandMaster? Just curious... Someone on the other forum did claim that this was a misprint/misquote and he was not calling himself GM so I just wanted to clarify. PS, i sent you a PM, please respond. Thanks

I believe that Piercy has named himself GM ie. it is not his students, but himself. He was 9th degree and well deserved in my mind. Again, is there a definition of what determines a GM? The person on the other forum was protesting the title not a misprint or misquote. He made the same claim about Simon not being a GM in another posting. I agree that it can read as you read it. regarding your PM - you also mentioned somewhere else that email verification was not turned on so your PM will not go to me. I would guess that 'yes' is the answer to your PM in which case you already have my email.

Not sure how the PM's work except from personal experience. If you use a real e-mail then you will be notified by that e-mail when you have recieved a PM on this forum. The "e-mail verification off" feature is only in reference to setting up an account, not Private Messages. However even if that isn't the case you should still recieve the PM when you log on to the forum directly. A notice appears in a pop-up window. I also have not recieved your e-mail, though my grasshopper@zenshack.net account is a little slow so I will keep looking for it...