I watched Hung 1. The first half is much the same, but the arm motions of the 3/4 and final move is different than I know.
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Sifu shawn- 09-27-2006
MrE2Me,
Although our forms are very similar, there are some differences.
I am going to post on this thread some of the differences I see. And I am doing it strictly from an analytical point of view. I dont want you to think I am picking the forms apart.
When I post my vids of the Hungs and Kempo froms I want you to ananlyze mine to. and tell me where you see diffferences. We know that the forms were taught different ways at different times by different people. I think these threads are a good way to see who was taught what and when. We can get an idea as to how some of the forms changed, or when, or why. Not that it matters when , where or why, but I am always interested in something as simple as the history and evolution of forms.
HUNG I
The only really major difference I see between yours and mine is that right after the "ARCHER POSITION" I was taught this:
step into a left cat stance , my left knife hand comes up under my right arm to break the opponents hold on my right wrist. I then step into a left bow, with a right reverse punch, then pivot my stance into a diagonal horse, sink my weight, and do a left low punch (bladder shot).
In your form after the "ARCHER POSITION" you step all the way through into a bow stance (instead of the cat stance) , then do a shuffle step into another left bow to complete the form.
That little bit of footwork is really the only big difference between the way I was taught and the way you are doing it.
Sifu Shawn
Sifu shawn- 09-27-2006
Mr E2Me2,
Continuing with my analysis of the Hungs.
HUNG II,
Differences I see between your Hung II and mine.
When you first turn with the left downward foot block, all of your strikes with the right arm are the same as mine. But you threw a left punch in there afterwards, I was not taught to do it with the left punch.
Only other real difference : at the end of your form after the left eagle claw strike you basically close your form, I was taught a right punch then pivot to a diagonal horse stance ( sink my weight ) and punch to the bladder. The last two strikes are identical to the ending of hung I.
So really that is what is different from how I was taught. The forms are otherwise Identical. I will look at Hung 3 again tommorow.
Sifu shawn
MrE2Me2- 09-27-2006
Hello Sifu Shawn,
I take your analysis of the forms in the spirit that you give it.
I am unable to visualize your interpretation of Hung 1, so I’ll have to wait for the vid.
(Sorry, my bad.)
About Hung 2: the left punch was originally done simultaneously with a right front kick.
I changed that later.
Looking forward to your vids.
Regards, MrE2Me2
Hello Sifu Shawn,
Wow!
I recognize them and yet they are so different.
It is really cool to see these vids and I thank you for sharing!
Regards, MrE2Me2
MrE2Me2- 11-03-2006
To all,
Last night I was teaching a class about commitment.
There are few things more committed in Mo than the Hung forms.
Here is a taste.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ZrBhfqQy8
Regards, MrE2Me2
Current Student- 11-07-2006
Interesting to see your differing styles of hung. Mr E seems to have a more ridgid kempo-ized style and Shawn more of a flowing style. If you guys had bags over your heads I could pick you guys out of a crowd of guys doing hung all with bags over their heads, simply from your style.
Not meant as criticism just my observations on how your different environments have influenced your styles.
MrE2Me2- 11-08-2006
Hello Current Student,
You posted, “Interesting to see your differing styles of hung. Mr E seems to have a more ridgid kempo-ized style and Shawn more of a flowing style.”
I agree, we do the same form quite differently.
Regards, MrE2Me2
Sifu shawn- 11-10-2006
Current student
Not meant as criticism just my observations on how your different environments have influenced your styles.
No offense taken. It is neat how an environment can effect our delivery of the same form.
I beleive we each train our own system of Martial Art. For example Mr.E2Me2 has the KISAE system. I train the Chinese Boxing Connection sytem. Each of our Systems contains Moo Kempo as a subsystem. And Hung as another subsystem yet.
Now to me, the word style , is a personal thing. I believe that a style is a personal expression of the system. So it is not hard to imagine people expressing their own style of the Hung system differently.
That is just my opinion however. Our expressions of the Moo System will also be different in style. I have come to the conclusion that, that is not a bad thing. It is okay for our common system ( Moo Kempo in this case) to be expressed differently among different practitioners. It is easy to see that what Myself and Mr E2Me2 train are of the very same foundation, but the art flexes to suit our individual needs and purposes.
sifu shawn
Current Student- 11-27-2006
I agree I have the same meaning style is personal expression of the system or systems you train in.
Hello Mr E2Me2
I have been away for a while and see I have been missing all the fun.
It is again interesting to see that there is a similarity about the Hungs forms, and yet again it is obvious there are some stylistic differences. Sifu S. Blanos forms are definitley the same , yet different.
sifu shawn
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