I recieved the following e-mail from another past student and teacher of TKF... I'm sure you're not short of response on the moh and pai huh shi section of your website, but here it is anyway: Thank you so very much for all of your research into the past of Temple Kung Fu. Without bias you have shed much light on the kung fu I still train eventhough I have not been in a Temple Kung Fu Studio in 5 years. I am very grateful. In response to your May 4th blog: Like you said; it could be seen by some that you are aiding Simon and lifting him back up on a pedistal and bla bla, but the way I see it, you are returning a little dignity to those who have gone through many years of working hard at a style only to be ashamed of it because of some sloppy business ethics and a bunch of web-slander. I hope your current training is going great, thanks again. Sifu R. A. Niagara Kung Fu Academy www.nkfa.ca

Hello North, I cannot speak to the history part of your posts but I do remember a bit about the punches. It was my understanding that English was a second language for Olaf. So the concept of “strike” might translate to “punch”. My memory of these strikes is very similar to yours. I have also added some of the strikes from the forms. The Cantonese corkscrew punch The vertical rising strike The Temple punch (with simultaneous mantis parry) The double swing strike with 2 returns The reverse rainbow (which I was taught was the opposite side helmet crusher) Leading Backhand and Hidden “punch” Swinging backhand Freespinning backhand and Crossover spinning backhand Wheel punch and Turning the Wheel punch Double fist and double double fist Horizontal hooking punch - 2 versions Vertical hooking punch Pulling the sword punch Hidden distance punch Butterfly punch I too, am doing this out of memory and I’m sure I am somewhat inaccurate. Regards, MrE2Me2

Hello North, I was watching the U.F.C. series tonight. Overall, I like the concept but: One part of the series I’d like to see done away with is the senseless destruction. Tonight these guys acted like fools and created a lot of damage to their rental home. Perhaps, if they had to replace or pay for their damages, they’d be more careful. As an aside, I saw what you meant about movement tonight. The match at the end of the show had a grappler against a striker. The striker tried to stand and fight instead of move and fight. His mistake. You posted, “Anyhow that was just one guy but the UFC isn't a place filled with professional martial artists. it is a place with mixed style gladiators adhereing to the set of rules and conditions placed on a fight. “ Ya, that is pretty accurate, Although, the U.F.C. also has a few strikers who have been training for a long time. Chuck Liddell is a Kajukenbo stylist with a wrestling background (as well). Yet he can strike with knockout power even when he is moving backward.. (As you can probably tell, I’m a fan of Chuck’s.) There is also then fact that Matt Hughes defeated Royce Gracie. He did it twice in the same match, once with grappling and once with strikes. Incidentally, I don’t see this as diminishing Royce Gracie in the least. He displayed tremendous courage in coming back to the octagon. Especially considering that the rules had changed as much as they had. You also posted about what can and cannot be used in this sport. The rules have evolved over the years. Originally, the rules were for the fighters (imo). Now they are more for the spectators. Apparently, Senator MacCain (a U.S. Senator) is strongly against this sport. Yet there have been no deaths in the U.F.C. And I’m sure that Dana White couldn’t buy the PR that he gets for Senator MacCain. You posted, “I have only seen 1 UFC fighter with a Kung Fu background in #4 back before the rules were changed” I did not see that one. But I did see the one between the white tiger Kenpo stylist and the sumo wrestler. The wrestler lost but the kenpo stylist broke his hand doing it. He had to retire from the competition. Regards, MrE2Me2

To all, North listed some of the original Mo strikes. I followed up by listing some, myself. Here are some of the Forefist strikes I practice today. Here is Jason and myself performing some Forefist strikes to targets. 1. Thrusts from high guard; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=furvCWmV9Gk 2. Thrusts from hip; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCVZyKQDjZo 4. Hooking punches (also known as half punches); http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpUz5uU-F0 Regards, MrE2Me2

To all, Here are a couple more minor changes I’ve made. This was shot during a private lesson. It is practice of: Angled Forefist Thrusts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RACKEsEqRXM Hammerfists http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKDSJFqL1EA Regards, MrE2Me2

To all, I don’t know if this guy has been mentioned here or not. His name is Ted Truscott and he was a student of Lyndon Bateson. http://victoria.tc.ca/Recreation/MartialArts/bio.html Regards, MrE2Me2

Hey Mystery, I have never heard of him but a couple other of Lyndon Batesons students have schools out here. There names are Mike Puckett and Stan Peterac (who is also a world champion kickboxer). I dont think we can really count them in our list though because they dont teach moh kempo. I am not sure if Lyndon Bateson trained somewhere else after training with Simon but what he taught here is Shotokan Karate. My Yoshukai sensei is also a high ranking student at Mike Puckett's and it is deffinetly not moh kempo. It would be interesting to hear where Lyndon Bateson got his Shotokan knowledge from and his experience with Simon was like. I am always on the lookout for him at local tournaments and such. thanks Swollenknuck http://www.myspace.com/swollenknuck "Shedding more sweat in peace means less blood in war"

Hello SwollenKnuck, You bring up an interesting point. Should we include students from those who have achieved a black belt in Mo Kempo? Even if those black belts no longer practice Mo? Sifu Shawn practices both Mo and Shotokan. As a matter of fact, here is a thread on that very subject. http://templekungforum.14.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=98 What do the rest of you think? Are they in or not; How about students in question? Regards, MrE2Me2

To all, Swollenknuck mentioned Mike Puckett. (He is a student of Lyndon Bateson’s). Here is a website devoted to a Shotokan Karate school on the island run by Mike. http://www.pnhk.com/mpuckett.htm And here is on of his former training partners. Michael Zimmer - Vorticity Martial Arts “This book is dedicated to my teacher, Dom Lopez, and to my former training partners; Mike Puckett and Kerry Hillier.” http://www.vorticity-martial-arts.com/balintawak/balintawak.html Hey Sifu Shawn, You are not alone in your pursuit of Shotokan and arnis (as well as Kempo). :-D Regards, MrE2Me2

Hello to all this is Si-Fu sblano from Montreal rest assure we are not closing our doors any time soon. We decided not to have to many students. It is my decion to keep the amount of students to a min. We have close to 50 to 60 students in all kids included. That is more then what we need.

Hello Yen Hui, Thanks for your input here. I have been leaning that way myself and that is what the list reflects as it stands. Regards, MrE2Me2 Without prejudice E&OE

To all, I originally posted about this in October of last year, here. http://templekungforum.14.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=78&start=0 Here is a copy of the original post: “Dr. John M. La Tourrette, “The Speed Man” “Clocked at an average of more than 16 hits per second by Black Belt Magazine” http://www.thespeedman.com/ So… so what, you ask??? Take a look here, at his credentials. http://www.thespeedman.com/text/credentials.htm "1973-74 Wai Nai Pai (Mo Kempo) Kung-Fu at Boise State University" I find that the links no longer work. So I went searching for this guy and I found a load of controversy. Here is “Rich Hale” at “Kenpo Talks Forum”, a forum on American Kenpo. http://kenpotalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3813 The topic in question? “Was John La Tourrette a 5th degree black belt belt?” The short answer? Yes He was trained in many different martial arts. With Moh Kempo and American Kenpo among them. So I went and “googled” his name. Here is what I found. At this site; He is said to have produced 247 videos. He has written and published 17 books. He is a “Silva Mind Control” instructor (?). He has all kinds of other successes. So far nothing out of the ordinary, other than he is a real go-getter. But then we have this. http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47659 These people call him a liar and a self promoted liar at that. Here they call his credentials into question, as well. http://www.scamfraudalert.com/showthread.php?p=9179 It would appear that we aren’t the only people who have controversy in our midst. Regards, MrE2Me2 Without prejudice E&OE

The martial arts are ripe with controversy. Even our discussion of Shi Yan Ming and his "New Shaolin Temple" in New York have piles of controversy. He is married and has sex, he eats meat yet he calls himself "Abbot" which is huge controversy itself. In Wing Chun we have two rival factions both descending from Yip Man and wanting to beat each other up. I have come to the conclusion that the people who are attracted to Martial Arts in general are a confrontational group. Perhaps not initially for some but the system of training to "confront" and build your self esteem through a method of combat skill aquisition leads to that type of personality. It then becomes the goal of martial artists to seek out humble behaviour and overcome their confrontational or overconfident nature. These are just my opinions but there are several things I have noticed about people who migrate towards the martial arts. I understand quite well now why the masters of old were so catious about who they accepted as students. Not because they would learn deadly secrets they were not worthy of, but because their personality could attract unwanted attention and represent the master poorly. I don't accept any new students atm. Let me tell you how nice it is to tell someone who phones in to inquire about prices etc "Sorry, I am not accepting any new students at the moment." The feeling is great. It reminds me and the caller that the martial arts are not always about goods and services, but about character and quality. I recently told 2 students I would no longer train them. They were not violent or anything, they were just not respectful and seemed to view Kung Fu as no different than piano lessons. They didn't appreciate the time I put into training them, and trust me I do not do it for money as it isn't a lucrative business. I have worked EXTREMELY hard to get to where I am and learn what I now know. Because I share this with others purely to continue my own learning and understanding I don't wish to share it with those I view to be "poor company." Don't get me wrong, I don't demand people call me sir or bow to me. But I think the odd 'thank you" or smile goes a long way. When a person leaves and makes me feel like I just "went to work" rather than "trained Kung Fu" I don't want them as a student. Anyhow, in North America we sell martial arts. We don't have students who work their hardest to prove themselves to us. Nobody cares about martial arts enough to do that. The people that phone and I tell I cannot teach them because I am not taking on new students at the moment? I would be willing to teach one of them for free even if he/she were to show my character like what was required in the past. Persistance and good character. Those are the sort of students I wish to associate with and because Kung Fu is not my primary source of income any longer I won't teach anyone who treats it merely as a business arrangement. But perhaps I am a little jaded. /shrug