Hello Temple Brotherhood, Wayne was one of my teachers and he was the chief instructor in Calgary at one point. When he told me how he used to spar, it made for a bunch of very interesting stories. He regularly had ribs broken and also his arm one time at the elbow. When I trained in Edmonton and again in Vancouver we called it light contact. I watched one of my instructors burn out. He would strike a student, usually quite hard. If they would say,” That was very hard!” He would say,” I didn’t feel a thing.” I have told of some of the times I had teaching in Surrey. And they were as bad as anything I endured as a student. In the end, I found that “light contact” must be determined by the recipient. The striker should not make that determination (imho). It just takes longer for a timid person to learn. If they are hit, they usually don’t take longer (they quit). I have found the following to be true, (To paraphrase Newton). “For every advantage, there is an equal an opposite disadvantage.” Regards, MrE2Me2

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I'm coming very, very late to this discussion, but I remember that no contact was stressed toward students and among students. The exceptions came when Master MacDonald or Mr. Jones needed to use me to demonstrate a technique. The rationale was that the technique needed to be well demonstrated in Skill class for the students' sake, therefore I'd get hit pretty hard. So as for contact, student were off limits, but junior instructors were fair game. I never minded that, but instead actually thought it a privilage to be used for the demonstration. -Mr. Ott

just quickly a conseses (forgive my spelling) has apparently been reached that tkf had no contact sparring i know differently mr macdonald beat me up rather well in an exibition mr shergold kicked one of us back 10 feet throgh the block that was thrown