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MrE2Me2- 08-13-2006
Before Simon
*Be advised that this post is the result of research from the net. To All There was a time in North America when there just wasn’t much H2H available. Even the military had serious limits on what it knew. I would consider Hawaii to be a hotbed of martial expertise. And for the remainder of this post, I will restrict my opinions and insights to what happened in North America proper. In older to newer order, they are: 1. Before Simon’s system, there were very few schools indeed. But here are a couple of links to something called “YouTube”. They depict WWII H2H training. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eYdyi8qGcI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXBtbZkWC4I 2. Before Simon’s system, there was Robert Trias. He was considered by many to be the “Father of American Karate”. He is said to have introduced Karate to North America around 1946. He taught out of Phoenix, Arizona. Here is a link. http://www.shuri-ryu.org/shuri-ryu/trias.htm His daughter’s webpage is here. http://www.triaskarate.com/ 3. Before Simon’s system, there was Ed Parker. He is considered to be “The Father of American Kenpo Karate”. He is said to have introduced Kenpo at BYU, circa the 1950’s. The links to his students would fill pages. So I’ll just include one of him conducting an interview. http://www.usadojo.com/articles/magician-motion.htm Outside of this, there just wasn’t much. Unless you had some special link to a JMA or CMA school, You were out of luck. It was a different time. Regards, MrE2Me2

Yen Hui- 08-28-2006
Re: Before Simon
Before Simon’s system, there was Ed Parker. He is considered to be “The Father of American Kenpo Karate”. He is said to have introduced Kenpo at BYU, circa the 1950’s. The links to his students would fill pages. So I’ll just include one of him conducting an interview. http://www.usadojo.com/articles/magician-motion.htm I have to confess that before coming to this website, I new virtually nothing about Ed Parker, apart from his status as an Amercian icon in the martial arts arena; and l knew even less about his relationship to Simon, and so I'm finding myself becoming very fascinated with his System, by the things I'm learning here. I'm beginning to view him as a martial arts genius! Thanks, MrE2Me2, for posting the link to this 1979 article. It was excellent and I found it very enlightening!

MrE2Me2- 08-28-2006

Hello Yen Hui, Thank you for your kind words. I too, view Ed Parker with great admiration. Why, when I have finished watching some of his art on the net, I'll go downstairs and practice Mo (than I would otherwise) :D (I know, my humor needs work.) In all seriousness, he was a great martial arts innovator and teacher. He sold his system to his students. They continue to practice it diligently, even after his death. You can find more on him and his line at this link. http://templekungforum.14.forumer.com/viewforum.php?f=16&sid=22780c27315c9a56fe05d9a6fc5950d8 It is my hope that the students of Mo will eventually see the art of Mo Kempo as I see it. When you watch Ed Parker's vids on his systerm, that is how I feel about my art. As an aside, I knew I'd find lots on Him. That was cool! It was also very cool to find old vids from WWII. That video piece of history was quite unusuall to find. Regards, MrE2Me2 .

MrE2Me2- 08-30-2006

Before Simon 2 To all, This particular post is what was available in North America to soldiers. While not publicly available, “Defendu” was what was taught during WWII. I have omitted the “Point shooting” methods. “Defendu” was a mixed martial art. It had no sport aspect to it. Mr. Fairbairn called his art “Gutter fighting”. He was solely interested in keeping soldiers alive. For his time, his art was ground breaking and revolutionary. It was equaled only by martial growth in Hawaii (at that time). (Interesting enough, Olaf said to Wayne that all he taught was “Survival”.) Here are 2 experts from WWII on “Defendu” W.E, Fairbairn, wrote “Kill or Be Killed” (among many others) He was a Shanghai cop before the war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_E._Fairbairn Rex Applegate, wrote “Kill or Get Killed” He was Mr. Faibairn’s student. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Applegate An essay on “Defendu” itself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defendu Now I know you are thinking, “Why has this been posted here”? What has this to do with Mo? This is what “Defendu” has evolved into. http://www.defendo.com/ Their sign is what I see every day when I take my wife for coffee. Look under the “Dir, of Training”. You will find that he is a high ranking expert in several Oriental Martial Arts. He is also in charge of the “Modern” defendo. The point being, martial arts evolve or die. This includes Mo! Regards, MrE2Me2

Sifu shawn- 11-15-2006

Mr E2Me2 The point being, martial arts evolve or die. I totally agree. And Moo is just a small part of a much larger martial arts whole. And the whole of martial arts is undeniably evolving . And If the whole evolves so must the parts. Lets call it MARTIAL DARWINISM. sifu shawn Upholder of Moo, the next evolution. One part of a larger whole.

MrE2Me2- 11-17-2006

Hello Sifu Shawn, You are an, "Upholder of Moo, the next evolution. One part of a larger whole." I like teh sound of that. Martial Darwinism…I like the sound of that too. So I looked it up on Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DarwinismDarwinism is a term for the underlying theory… concerning evolution and natural selection.” I’d say that covers us all right. Regards, MrE2Me2

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